How Much Air To Put In Air Shocks

air shocks typical psi ? #105381 08/15/08 03:37 PM 08/15/08 03:37 PM
OP member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 58 wisconsin	hey all , I have a 67 belvedere that has a fix of air shocks on the dorsum that i have no thought as to what model number or anything as far as i tin can see. They are a argent color and im assuming are pretty standard. There is a valve in the trunk to pump them up, I take noticed my ride is sagging a bit since the winter and have pumped it up with air , my question is can i over inflate these and risk blowing up a valve or practise they have some kind of safety where they but blow off the excess air. If they indeed can be overinflated , what on average would be a safe PSI i could pump these upwards to since i have no thought as to a model number. I have never had air shocks on a auto before and I have no thought what these things range for PSI capability, any assist would exist awesome , thanks

Re: air shocks typical psi ? [Re: chuckpolzin] #105382 08/15/08 03:43 PM 08/fifteen/08 03:43 PM
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I Live Hither Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: sixteen,375	Air shocks are a crutch. You need better springs with the correct curvation, and existent shock absorbers. Shock mounts were never intended to carry big loads. My ii cents worth... R.

Re: air shocks typical psi ? [Re: chuckpolzin] #105383 08/15/08 03:44 PM 08/xv/08 03:44 PM
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primary Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: three,224 Westward Coast, USA	You lot would exist ameliorate served past replacing them with some loftier quality shocks. If yous need additional ride hieght. At that place are meliorate ways to go information technology. However, if you lot desire to inflate them, endeavor using 5 lbs increments until you get the desired result. 1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(cake in storage)currently 493" six pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, four.10's 1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with four speed automated overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and iv.xxx's (closest affair to an automatic five speed going)

Re: air shocks typical psi ? [Re: chuckpolzin] #105384 08/xv/08 03:46 PM 08/15/08 03:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,322 Grand Prairie,Texas stumpy I Win
I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,322 Yard Prairie,Texas	About 40psi. they are non good for raising the motorcar as they are supposed to help the springs when you load the automobile. Not to replace bad springs. You can put more air,as much as 80psi but you are then setting yourself upwardly for the shocks coming through the floor depending on how stiff the mounts are. If you want to get the rear higher then the best bet is to add a helper leaf to the springs or replace them.

Re: air shocks typical psi ? [Re: jbc426] #105385 08/15/08 03:48 PM 08/fifteen/08 03:48 PM
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mopar addict Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 819 Dexter, Michigan	They most likley can and will take up to @ 125#, Just that'll put the rear upward pretty expert. Probably higher than y'all want.

Re: air shocks typical psi ? [Re: stumpy] #105386 08/15/08 03:49 PM 08/15/08 03:49 PM
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moparts member Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,195 Snowing in the north!	I have traction bars on mine and have air shocks not by choice.... I will exist removing them as some betoken only need to make sure standard shocks will exist the correct height. That said, I run about sixty-65 lbs. Every bit stated above if you lot put likewise much air in them you will be punching out the shock towers.

Re: air shocks typical psi ? [Re: chuckpolzin] #105388 08/15/08 06:03 PM 08/xv/08 06:03 PM
Joined: January 2003 Posts: ane,359 Buzzard County, FL IronWolf pro stock
pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: i,359 Buzzard County, FL	The matter is , the weight of the body is borne by the torsion bars and leaf springs. Once ago, in a galaxy far, far away, somebody with a rot-box had the upper stupor mounts dial through because of rampant corrosion. He posted for eons about this, and it passed into Mopar "lore" - air shocks are bad. This is called "groupthink". LMFAO At that place are other myths...

Re: air shocks typical psi ? [Re: IronWolf] #105390 08/xv/08 06:26 PM 08/15/08 06:26 PM
Joined: January 2003 Posts: 32,322 Yard Prairie,Texas stumpy I Win
I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,322 Chiliad Prairie,Texas	That stance looks expert. As along time mechanic who lived in the north I've seen more 1 car with the shocks pushed through the flooring. Yes they were rusted cars but it does happen. It'southward not a myth it'south the truth. Using salt to clear icy roads causes a lot of rusted weak floor pans. look at all the guys having to replace trunks and flooring pans. Shocks were not designed to support the weight of a car. Last edited past stumpy; 08/15/08 06:34 PM.

Re: air shocks typical psi ? [Re: chuckpolzin] #105391 08/fifteen/08 06:37 PM 08/15/08 06:37 PM
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super stock Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 921 Chicago illinois	Quote: yep sounds adept i had the feeling i might demand to freshen upwards the susp. on my ride, for the mean time how does this look as far equally a typical belv stance goes, maybe im merely too into a beefed up looking rear, http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee317/3snakes1charm/DSC00232.jpg Nice auto The ride height in that pic is difficult to judge since the car is on an incline only it doesn,t wait to high to me at all , i,d break out the compressor i,ve seen my share of damaged daze mounts on SOLID cars from air stupor abuse,plus they ride similar a horse wagon but with depression p.south.i. you lot sould be fine for a while .

Re: air shocks typical psi ? [Re: ChinooK440] #105392 08/15/08 07:05 PM 08/15/08 07:05 PM
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I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: xi,428 delivering your oil	i was under the impression that air shocks work very well if they are not overpressurized... so 15-20 psi (not xx-25 psi) is a normal amount? didn't lincolns and those mark viii factory hot rods take air shock suspensions?

Re: air shocks typical psi ? [Re: nutso suave] #105394 08/15/08 09:01 PM 08/15/08 09:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,322 G Prairie,Texas stumpy I Win
I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,322 Grand Prairie,Texas	Quote: i was under the impression that air shocks work very well if they are not overpressurized... so fifteen-xx psi (non 20-25 psi) is a normal corporeality? didn't lincolns and those marking viii manufacturing plant hot rods accept air shock suspensions? I believe they are air bags not air shocks. Much dissimilar deal. Most of those old air shocks didn't even notice 20 psi. Over pressure on air shocks is 90+ psi.

Re: air shocks typical psi ? [Re: stumpy] #105395 08/xv/08 ten:36 PM 08/15/08 ten:36 PM
Joined: January 2003 Posts: 1,368 Houston,Tx. Lee446 pro stock
pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,368 Houston,Tx.	The Lincoln MK 8s did utilize an air shock blazon pause on the forepart, air numberless on the dorsum and it worked pretty good. I have run air shocks on my cars for years and have had nix bug with them. If they beat out out the mounts, yous had bigger problems anyway. What is worse is topping out the shocks on a high performance car just no one on hither always claims that happened to them. I have run SS springs with elevate shocks all around and then swapped them all dorsum to stock blazon gas on forepart and the airshocks (with extensions on back to end topping out on launch) My mid eleven second street motorcar saw NO departure in sixty ft or anything else and I kept very good records while running the bracket program at Houston for years, and was getting most 6" of air on launch. Load up several friends and put their gear in the trunk, add 25# of air and take off on a trip without looking like a low rider. Air shocks get a bad rap from many of the experts here, simply virtually have little or no experience with them. When they became popular in the late lx's, early on 70'southward there were many articles in the mags about using them at the track. By running seperate air lines, you could preload your right rear tire for a better launch. They are not a panacea for a worn out rusted out car, but used properly, they are a usefull improver for many street/strip cars.

Re: air shocks typical psi ? [Re: Lee446] #105396 08/15/08 11:46 PM 08/xv/08 11:46 PM
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Banned. Forever. Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,327 Glendale, AZ	My Satellite already had them installed past one of the previous owners when I got information technology, but I keep mine at 50psi. I would never really spend money and buy them myself. 1969 Nova 454/M21/iii.31 Mild mid-11 2d weekend cruiser 1994 F150 XLT Super Cab 2WD 5.0/4R70W/3.55 (Daily driver)

Re: air shocks typical psi ? [Re: Lee446] #105397 08/16/08 07:16 AM 08/16/08 07:16 AM
Joined: November 2004 Posts: 25,048 Texas GoodysGotaCuda 5.7L Hemi, 6spd
5.7L Hemi, 6spd Joined: November 2004 Posts: 25,048 Texas	Quote: The Lincoln MK 8s did utilize an air daze type suspension on the front, air bags on the back and information technology worked pretty skillful. I have run air shocks on my cars for years and have had cypher issues with them. If they vanquish the mounts, you had bigger problems anyhow. What is worse is topping out the shocks on a high functioning machine only no one on here ever claims that happened to them. I have run SS springs with drag shocks all around and then swapped them all dorsum to stock type gas on front and the airshocks (with extensions on dorsum to stop topping out on launch) My mid 11 2d street car saw NO difference in 60 ft or anything else and I kept very good records while running the bracket program at Houston for years, and was getting nearly 6" of air on launch. Load up several friends and put their gear in the trunk, add together 25# of air and take off on a trip without looking like a depression rider. Air shocks get a bad rap from many of the experts here, merely most have petty or no experience with them. When they became pop in the late sixty's, early on lxx's in that location were many articles in the mags about using them at the rail. By running seperate air lines, you could preload your right rear tire for a better launch. They are not a panacea for a worn out rusted out motorcar, but used properly, they are a usefull addition for many street/strip cars. You practice know that the Lincoln was designed to run air-struts and non just tossed onto a at present thirty year former motorcar. Correct? Mercedes Benz ran them for awhile every bit well. I dont call up the concern is for 60' in a elevate car, merely more of the increased load on the upper shock mounts in the rear of the auto. Pictures have been posted by 'non-experts' running air-shocks on some non-so-new mopars, they prove clearly going through the back of the trunk. Cars were but not plain designed to deport the load there (unlike the Lincoln yous mentioned), it was meant for the springs. While thats dandy your drag motorcar doesn't heed the air shocks. The concern of the thread is most street Mopars become beat-upwards in inadequate stregnth places. I've run them on my car, there is no way that astringent of a ride when 'jacked upwardly' was anything but bad for my auto. They were on a very breif time, and swapped for the proper leaf springs to be used on the street. Your drag car isn't hitting speed bumps, rail road tracks, dips, pot holes, driveways, etc, etc. -Mike "Non-expert at Air Shocks"

Re: air shocks typical psi ? [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #105398 08/16/08 10:09 AM 08/sixteen/08 10:09 AM
Joined: January 2003 Posts: 32,322 Grand Prairie,Texas stumpy I Win
I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,322 Grand Prairie,Texas	I used to use them in the 60s and I do know what they are like on a street motorcar on crude roads. Which is an entirely different situation then a drag car on a very smooth surface.. Yeah they can be a good add-on to a drag car when use correctly.

Re: air shocks typical psi ? [Re: stumpy] #105399 08/16/08 eleven:55 AM 08/16/08 xi:55 AM
Joined: January 2003 Posts: ane,368 Houston,Tx. Lee446 pro stock
pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: one,368 Houston,Tx.	Sorry, you misunderstood. My streetcar is bracket raced. When I say street automobile, I mean driven in the 98 and 99 Hot Rod Ability tour, driven from Houston to the Woodward Dream Cruise and back and driven for the last xx years with airshocks on it. They serve the purpose they were designed for and were factory optional on some cars, Ford station wagons existence one of them. Just considering you accept had bad experiences with them, or known people who misused them, does not mean they are not a viable shock for a street car.

Re: air shocks typical psi ? [Re: Lee446] #105400 08/16/08 12:29 PM 08/xvi/08 12:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,322 Grand Prairie,Texas stumpy I Win
I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,322 Grand Prairie,Texas	I'm non confronting air shocks when used correctly as a suppliment to the suspension equally a overload helper. Or as a suspension tuning tool. I am speaking more nearly the guys that use them to jack the car upwards in the air instead of using the correct springs. These are the ones that beat the daze mounts out. The ones that run style too much pressure and look like a Kangaroo going downward the street.

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